The Revelation Part 2 – Who are the 24 Elders

"Write therefore, what will take place after this"

Revelation 4-22 includes the rapture of the Body of Christ, the 144,000 from the tribes of Israel, the great multitude of Tribulation Saints, the seventieth week of Daniel, which includes The Great Tribulation, the Day of the Lord’s wrath, and finally the New Jerusalem. One thing to note is that the Book of Revelation topples any pretence that the Church replaces Israel (Replacement Theology). The position of Israel becomes abundantly clear as we move through the details of the revelation.

There's little doubt that God intended this vision for all believers (plural)—Rev 22:6 The angel said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place " There are simply too many allusions, mathematical rhythms, and repeating patterns for the Book of Revelation to be anything less than the transcendent hand of God.

The "Doctrine of immanence" indicates that no one knows when Christ returns and raptures the Body of Christ. There will be no signs or visions preceding, no mark of the Beast or seven-year peace treaty to watch out for. Christ joins with believers in the air, NOT on the Earth, and if anyone believes, they will see signs consistent with the rapture; they might consider what they’ve missed. The rapture of the Saints is not the second coming of Christ; that's illustrated in Matt 24:30: "Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." Matthew's account happens on Earth, after the Great Tribulation and before the "Reign of Christ".

“After” the seven Churches, in chapter 5 - “I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me, like a trumpet, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this."  John is transported to a fixed position, outside of time—he sees from the past to the future, in real time. For us, reading the Book of Revelation is like looking back to the future. This explains how John sees the 24 Elders seated on thrones, in Heaven, before the revelation comes to pass. John is summoned to "come up here." This call heavenward is not unique within the biblical narrative—and it’s adequately positioned here to be seen as symbolic, a foreshadowing the rapture itself—it’s clearly situated before the Seventieth week of Daniel (Dan 9:27). The word rapture is derived from several New Testament passages, one being 1Thess 4:16-17, where the word comes from the Latin "simul rapiemur", and conveys the idea of  "we shall be suddenly taken together with them" in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

These 24 Elders were not Angels (Rev 5:11). They sit on thrones and are dressed in white robes, with crowns of gold on their heads. Those dressed in white robes, wearing crowns and sitting on thrones are typically identified in the bible as justified believers, and we find a more complete description in Revelation 21:12-14, where an Angel identifies the significance of the twenty-four Elders in the architecture of the "New Jerusalem." Here, the names of the 12 tribes of Israel are on the 12 gates, and the 12 Apostles of Jesus Christ are the names on the 12 foundation stones. Together, they represent the ecclesiastical foundation on which the New Jerusalem is built—the New Jerusalem that comes down from Heaven—the Church, built on the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets in Eph 2:20.

The scroll - When Jesus opens the scroll in chapter 5, seven seals (trials) are revealed. But before the seals are opened, the 24 Elders sing a song which further supports who they are. Each Elder has a harp and is holding golden bowls of incense, which are the prayers of God's people. The Elders sing this song in the first person—about themselves, and thus identify themselves as the raptured believers in 1Thess 4:16-17. Jesus has made them Kings and Priests who will reign when Jesus returns to Earth, a fact that John himself identifies with in Rev 1:6. These redeemed believers are in Heaven before the seals are opened.

"And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth" (Rev 5:9-10).

After six of the seven seals are opened, those still alive on the Earth cry out, "Hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!" The Great Tribulation is about to begin when the seventh seal is opened. The term "The Great Tribulation" is often expressed as a 7-year period, which is misleading because in Daniel 9:27, only the last three and a half years of tribulation are identified as The Great Tribulation.

Why is there a pause before the opening of the seventh seal? The pause introduces two groups of believers who stand before God after the first six seals have finished. The 144000 are Jewish believers who’ve survived the horror of the first six seals and are about to experience the wrath of the Great Tribulation itself. But Jesus pauses the proceedings and says, "Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God."

This pause also introduces "the Great multitude." These believers have been killed during the first six seals, an echo from Rev 6:9 "When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood? Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been." The great multitude here are tribulation Saints—those who have died for their faith, in the period leading up to the opening of the seventh seal; they are not the raptured saints in 1Thess 4.

 KJV "And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? And whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb (Rev 7:13-14). Note: In the KJV and the original Greek, there is no definite article (the) before "great tribulation.”

In Rev 7:14, we see that the full number of tribulation Saints has been reached, and they now stand before the throne of God in Heaven. Because they’re described as “tribulation saints,” some suggest they’ve been in the Great Tribulation itself. This arises because Bibles such as the NIV have inserted the definite Article “the”, which is not found in the Greek, and ignore the effect it has on the entire chapter. In the KJV, the definite article is not present—thus the expression means coming out of trial, or severe affliction. Had a technical period been intended, the definite article could have been used, but it’s absent. If the seventh seal marks the beginning of the period properly called “The Great Tribulation,” then these saints must have died before it commenced. The NIV obscures this distinction by inserting the definite article. Many teachers further compound the confusion by equating the entire seventieth week of Daniel with “The Great Tribulation,” overlooking both the grammar and the narrative sequence. The text itself places it later — it comes “after this.”

The great Tribulation (Rev 8) - The seventh seal is opened, and there was silence in heaven for half an hour. The anticipation of this moment—and the dread of what is about to happen—all can be felt in the heaviness of the language. 

"And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake" (Rev 8:4-5).

The prayers of the saints, being mixed with the judgment of God (fire), have echoes in1Cor 6:2, "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world"? The opening of the seventh seal begins the Great Tribulation and initiates the seven trumpet judgments. This commentary is mainly concerned with the progress of the Church, so not every detail from this point on will be covered. 

The New Jerusalem (Rev 21) - Jesus has already described Himself as “The Rock” (Matt 16:18), on which the Church is built, and now positions Himself as “The Temple” in the New Jerusalem. He also identifies the 12 Apostles, named as the 12 foundation stones on which the City rests, and the 12 Tribes of Israel, which are named as the 12 gates of the New Jerusalem. These patterns are developed in both the Old and New Testaments, and together they are the 24 Elders representing the Body of Christ. Thus, the final assembly of the Body of Christ is both Gentile and Jewish—the grafting of Gentiles into a Jewish vine. I wonder how those who think the Church has replaced Israel will answer this question from God?

Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

To conclude: the question of when "The Rapture" occurs is a question we must decide for ourselves. This will largely depend on whether we interpret the book of Revelation literally or metaphorically. It also depends on whether we see it as a direct map to a fundamental reality, or a blank canvas—not tied to any particular event or transcendent truth. If it's just a fantasy, then God went to a lot of trouble creating a narrative with direct allusions in the Old and New Testaments. This book only makes sense if we attach the metaphor to specific prophetic events. In this case, only one view provides a coherent conclusion to the story.

If the Book of Revelation details a linear timeline to the events leading up to the end of time, then “The Seventieth week of Daniel” cannot begin until the Seven Lampstands are in Heaven—the 24 Elders (seven lampstands) must be seated on 24 thrones and offering up the incense of the Saints, before Jesus takes the scroll. The crowns belonging to the 24 Elders must be laid on the sea of glass before the seals are opened. The seventh seal cannot begin until the incense and prayers of the Saints are filled with the judgment of God and hurled to the Earth.

Rev 1:3  Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.